I Knew Kerry was full of Morons
Sex Offender Danny Foley
For anyone wondering how child abuse flourished for so long in Ireland, just have a look at this shit. A community of morally corrupt simpletons. It’s a certainty that these are the kind of people who years ago would have defended priests against accusations of abuse, and made outcasts of anyone brave enough to come forward. This Danny Foley wanker really is pathetic, he did the crime, then compounded the suffering of the victim by trying to lie his way out of it. He would have to commit a sexual assault to get a bit of action, he’s only 35, but he looks around 50 in that picture, the balding, inbred farmer-head fuck.
Dozens sympathise with sex offender
ANNE LUCEY in Tralee
DOZENS of people queued inside a Co Kerry courthouse yesterday to shake hands and sympathise with a man who was jailed for five years for sexually assaulting a woman in Listowel.
Danny Foley (35), a nightclub bouncer, Meen, Listowel, was sentenced to seven years with the final two suspended by Judge Donagh McDonagh in the Circuit Criminal Court in Tralee. He had been found guilty two weeks ago of sexually assaulting a woman who was discovered by a Garda patrol in a semi-conscious state and naked from the waist down alongside a skip in a car park early on June 15th, 2008…
…Before passing sentence, the judge criticised a character statement made by Castlegregory parish priest Fr Seán Sheehy. The priest had said Foley was always “respectful of women”, but Foley’s actions “gave the lie” to Fr Sheehy’s statement, the judge said.
Foley, who had been celebrating his 34th birthday on the night of the offence, had denied the charge. He told gardaí he had “found your wan” after he had gone to relieve himself near a skip at 3.50am. However CCTV footage showed him carrying her to the skip area. It also emerged he had met her earlier in a nightclub.
Judge McDonagh said the offence was at the middle to upper end of sexual assault. He noted that little or no remorse had been shown, nor any apology given to the victim, “surprisingly in the plea for mitigation”. He ordered that Foley be placed on the sex offenders’ register for life.
Funny how the priest weighed in with a character reference. If I was up for any type of sexual offence, I wouldn’t really want a priest to be my character witness. Needless to say, all these pig-ignorant mouth breathers believe the man has been dealt a grave injustice: “He always was an honest fellow. He goes to mass with his granny every week. Sure the bitch was probably asking for it!”
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Listowel bouncer jailed for sex assault
A judge this week described as a “web of lies” the evidence given by a Listowel man charged with sexual assault on a woman in the town last year, before sentencing him to seven years in prison for the offence. Two years of the seven-year sentence were suspended.
There were extraordinary scenes in Tralee courthouse at the sentencing of Danny Foley, Meen, Listowel, on Wednesday, after he had been found guilty by a jury of sexual assault on a female on June 15th last year.
Mr Foley hung his head and wiped a tear from his eye as he heard his sentence and was told he is also to be placed on the sexual assault register for life.
Mr Foley’s mother, who was in the public gallery, screamed hysterically when the sentence was announced, and relatives rushed around her in support.
Judge Donagh McDonagh ordered that anyone who commented on the sentence should leave the court, and the woman was assisted out of the courtroom.
Before the judge passed the sentence on Wednesday morning, approximately fifty supporters filed up, one-by-one to the dock, where Mr Foley sat between two prison wardens.
They shook his hand, hugged him, and many were crying. They all sat in the gallery as As he delivered his sentence, Judge Donagh McDonagh referred to what he described as Mr Foley’s “revolting assertions” and “odious language” used regarding his victim.
The judge said that his claims that he engaged in a mutual sexual act with the victim were designed to “add insult to injury”, and to demean and degrade the woman.
He said that Mr Foley’s behaviour “certainly gave lie” to statements from two character witnesses.
Listowel businessman Dermot O’Mahony had said Mr Foley was “inoffensive, courteous and calm” in his dealings with others. Fr Sean Sheehy, the Parish Priest of Castlegregory, said Mr Foley had the highest regard for women and didn’t have an abusive bone in his body.
Judge McDonagh described Mr Foley’s evidence as “self-serving” and referred to his “spinning his web of lies”. “It is quite clear the jury didn’t accept his evidence,” said Judge McDonagh.
“Not alone the lies he told were revolting but the language used by him in describing his victim and referring to her as ‘your wan’ when he knew well who she was, was equally so.
“He embarked on a further series of lies to gardai that is simply not credible as he later admitted he told lies. There is something particularly odious about his allegations against the victim and it seem the accused wished to add insult to injury he humiliated her and demeaned her in the eyes of the jury and public.’
Foley gave graphic description to the jury about what he claimed were consensual sexual acts.
Judge McDonagh said it was evident from the demeanour of the victim and her inability to recall all events clearly that what happened was not consensual.
“No reasonable man could believe a girl or woman in a condition like this could reasonably consent to a sexual encounter of any kind,” he said.
“From the medical evidence it was clear that she suffered extensive bruising, and numerous scratches consistent with being dragged.”
…..Judge McDonagh concluded that the man showed little remorse and had not apologised “There is no doubt he intended to commit this assault,” he said.
The jury during the three day trial had heard that both met in a local nightclub. The woman had a number of drinks and when he bought her a Black Russian shot, she felt sick and wanted to go home.
Mr Foley accompanied her and after initially walking a distance he carried her towards the rear of a car park, where gardai later found him leaning over her.
She was half-naked and semi-conscious, and was removed to hospital in a very distressed state.
Foley initially said he had come across her as he relieved himself, but later told gardai he had lied, and claimed they had been together consensually. There was no clinical evidence of sexual assault.
I feel sorry for the mother. It must be hard learning that your son is a sex offender.
Here’s another great article on the events: Shame on jackasses who treated attacker as victim
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Hi there,what a fantastic article,
congratulations.
I am in the process of registering my complaints about the scumbag behavior of parish priest sean sheehy and hope its ok with you that i have used part of your article to articlate how i feel.
well done on such fantastic work
regards
deirdre
No worries. In the meantime, as expected, I have received a number of defamatory comments towards the victim, saying it’s all her fault and that Mister Foley is a decent man and is innocent. Of course there is no mention of the damning evidence against him, just some garbage about the people of Listowel being behind him.
Typical that a celibate fuck would defend a rapist [not convicted of rape - BMD]…bastard will never know what it’s like to have a close relationship with a woman…just look at the eyes on the bastard…bet he liked kicking the shit out of clients…
Interesting is the media spin and role of alcohol in cases such as this. So i looked a little closer…Mr Foley was found guilty by a jury, ommitted in reports bar 2-jury requested more time to reach verdict which judge denied(unusual and possibly grounds for appeal).Bangarda that accompanied victim to hospital made statement that she had to restrain the lady and felt it was this restraining that caused bruising to her wrists.This is not reported in any articles relating to case but is noted in the court report itself.After her ordeal and being in the safety of bangarda why did this happen? The subsequent medical report noted this bruise without noting cause as explained by Guard, which in reading report would lead to assumption it ocurred during assault. Interestingly “semi concious” is mentioned in all media reports- my belief in listening to and reading such reports was that this lady had being knocked unconcious or beaten brutally. fact is this is covered in the medical report and this state was actually alcohol induced which explains the sketchy statements of the victim. Alcohol is key factor in majority of reported assaults in Ireland 9 times out of 10 both parties cannot actually recall the events…time to cop on anyone?
Laura, you’re right.. alcohol can have serious consequences for people. Like this young lady, who was unfortunate enough to get hammered in the presence of a sexual predator, who in the end, got caught out despite all his lies. And I would appreciate a copy of the court report, if you are going to be discussing it.
Well said…good article
I am seething. How dare those ignorant men shake the hand of that vile creature. never mind the priest. Ah yeah we’ve moved a long way from the valley of the squinting windows. Just read the comments about the Katie H article Irish Times website. All this shows you all our sophistication and modern ireland persona is pure bullshit.
Err.. he’s not convicted of rape. Why are you calling him a rapist? Thats a bit silly.
This is an outrage. That poor girl must be going through an awful time. I heard his mother organised the 50 or so hand shakers. It’s sickening really. I mean look at the picture of him above. He looks like a sick fuck. I’m glad he got sent away. I really hope the victim can move away somewhere away from all of this. Little hick bastards in Listowel will be bullying her and she doesn’t deserve this. She’s the fucking victim!
I am absolutely sickened by this. Oh to live in a world where sick perverted bastards like this are locked up for life. Shame on those who shook his hand, have they no sisters, mothers, girlfriends? Would they shake the hand of a man that assaulted them? Narrow-minded, short-sighted fools, not a brain cell or moral fibre between them. Goint to contact the Bishop about the DISGRACE of a priest. Shame on them all.
I was disgusted when I read that a Priest who had Retired from an American Parish had supported a Person who had been found guilty by a Jury to have committed Rape and who had lied,in my opinion Fr Sheehy who said it had never entered his head to sympathise with the unfortunate Victim should be told to leave his position as he is a disgrace and all I can say to him is Shame on You his Bishop should tell him to resign.
a sorry state of affairs, in relation to comments by laura, i wish to see what he thinks of the cctv footage of this foley character carrying the woman across the car park ? is the fact that she was drunk an excuse for him to have done what he did? or are you just far too liberal laura ? why not say a woman wearing a short skirt is asking to be assaulted!!! how bizarre.!
There was NO CLINICAL EVIDENCE OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, can someone please explain how a person can be convicted for events where there is no evidence?
Also Laura’s comment made December 17th 15:42:30 explains the court events in detail a lot more than the papers and media did, please take time to read it.
Danny Foley is not a sexual predator or never was, as regards to the alligations made that his mother had organised 50 people to attend court, that is untrue, those were his friend who know him a lot better than anyone making false accusations on this site about Mr Foley, the event that unfolded was the guards were asked by a friend could he see Danny before the court and the guards had no problem with that, when one went in they all went in may I add in an orderly fashion the incident was blown out of proportion and now the media are blowing it out of proportion, there is more to this than meets the eye and the truth will come out in time.
Christina, can you quit fucking dancing around the issue, and outline in detail the insider knowledge you have that points to a miscarriage of justice? You mention the court report; can you explain why you don’t accept the most important element of the court report, namely a conviction of sexual assault? Until you outline this conclusive evidence the community in Kerry seem to be sitting on regarding the man’s innocence, perhaps you should refrain from commenting? Or is it just that you and others like you have a strong belief that the man is not capable of what he was convicted of and are clinging to whatever you can to make the woman’s story less credible? Regarding Laura’s comment, can you please explain how some alleged ambiguities regarding the bruising to the victim and lack of clinical evidence should render the other substantial evidence of a sexual assault invalid? I look forward to your response.
in relation to all the comments, this 22 year old girl [DEFAMATORY, UNSUBSTANTIATED COMMENTS ON THE WOMAN'S SEXUAL HABITS AND MEANINGLESS, UNATTRIBUTABLE SPECULATION AND HEARSAY] – edited – BMD
dept. Ger bolder
im totally with you big mental!!! these people are quite strange and detached from REALISM, this guy obviously has a split personality if he can make all these people believe he didnt do it! i dont think you ll get a reply from laura and if you do it sure as damn it, it wont be committal of anything related to the facts, just another load of what if , who , maybe bullshit!!!
Bigmentaldisease, the jury formed at approx 3.30pm on the Friday evening after being in court since Wednesday morning, as Laura stated there were 2 of them that wanted more time and this was denied, rushed verdict, Do you know Danny Foley? were they not doing what a million couples do every weekend up back alleys only they get caught, it’s very easy to shout rape it beats getting done for indecent exposure.
“were they not doing what a million couples do every weekend up back alleys only they get caught, it’s very easy to shout rape it beats getting done for indecent exposure.” They were not doing what a million couples do, according to a court of law; what happened was a sexual assault. The onus is on his defenders, who are rubbishing the result of a criminal trial, to provide real evidence as to his innocence. Once again, you have just provided your personal opinion, based on your assesment of his character. I don’t know him, or need to know him. You failed to address any of the questions, as I expected.
Te guy is guity laura and christina. Laura has two points bruses on the arms and the state of being drunk. this was not substantial evidence.
This is explained as being credible and of solid value; it must actually be “substantial” proof of the essentials which the law requires in a particular case.
the second was just a clutching of straws with her being too drunk and not battered. Your friend christin which i think he is as you call him danny in one line! he had one moment of maddnes and now has to pay, but he is guily with sexual assault.
Now to deal with the fifty sympathisers.
As someone reminded me that this behaviour to the victims of horrible crimes is often greeted with denial. Then is followed with support. finally a sort of putting the scars behind us in the hope they will heal themselves. We have been doing this with cases in the child abuse, sophies story being a good one where the neighbours were supporting a monster who had raped his daughters for most of their pre adult lives. that storyhappened in Sligo…. Even in the courts when the evidence was pouring out the locals still stood by him. that was in the 1980’s. I feel sorry for the little fools still denying this to themselves after todays events. I wonder what that must be like? You hear in court all the evidence on tape etc and you dont really want to believe it. Then you take to blogs like this one and wonder can their be something that will support a little more your hope this was an awful mistake, but worst of all you are killing the heart of the poor victim as you blacken this womens name while you come to terms with the fact that danny foley, is a sexual pervert. All i want to say is the peopleof meen,Listowel. gather around the victim and help her get her life back. SHE DID NOTHING WRONG.
both sides make valid points but how can you explain cctv footage of him carrying her down the alley then dumping beside the dumpster. i dont know bout anyone else but when i hook up wit someone i usually give them a kiss and go home
here here dermot and big mental!!!!
“were they not doing what a million couples do every weekend up back alleys only they get caught,
i find this so sad that someone thinks like this.!!! CHRISTINA you are completely beyond help unfortunatly, where in the world do you see grown men carring drunken women on their shoulders into pub/nightclub car parks and sexually assault them?
at least the one good thing to come from this trial is the fact that there is one less scum bag psycho on the streets for a little while!
he has a disease and anyone who stands up for him has it too!!!
Jesus. Glad you posted on this BMD. I was going to when I heard about it, but the whole thing was just so fucking sick I probably would have vomited all over the laptop.
And then of course, I wouldn’t have had the stomach to listen to the friendly rape apologists Christina, Laura etc. etc. on here defending that piece of fucking dirt rapist [Edit: Not convicted of rape - BMD].
As for Christina and her “oh there was no clinical evidence of assault”….there was cctv and a whole heap of statements. And by the way, I don’t know how you’ve forgotten this (as you’re so well informed and all) but just because there’s no CLINICAL evidence does NOT mean it never happened. I mean by your logic it would mean that anyone who didn’t get a rape kit done immediately could never see their attacker prosecuted.
I honestly don’t know what planet these people are on. Really.
Everyone is so quick to knock…some comments giving out about modern Ireland and making sweeping generalisations are behaving as backward as they are accusing the people in Kerry of being!! Why not try being open minded to the fact that we dont all come from same backgrounds and dont all think the same?
Hicks, Farmer head, always knew Kerry was full of perverts/morons etc etc…are any of these comments necessary…does that imply if it were a girl from South Co Dublin with a designer dress and no knickers and a Leinster Under 21’s star behind a rugby grounds that the case would be different? And would the family and friends of this decent guy from a decent family get such stick and criticism for showing their support as these people down the country are getting?
A wise man once told me theres 3 sides to every story your side, my side and the truth.
The clerical abuse scandals are horrific, upsetting and a disgrace to our country. It is unfair however to bring them into this story that broke yesterday.
The priest was entitled to act in a pastoral role to the prisoner.
My point in relation to alcohol works in a number of ways. Yes she was unfortunate to get hammered, get herself into a situation and not recall what happened but…should she not take responsibility for allowing herself be in a condition that might put herself in danger?
Yes he was unfortunate to have got hammered, got himself into a situation and not have the benefit of sobreity to realise she was drunk too and this may not be safe for him either…i doubt there’ll be a day that goes by that he doesnt regret that.
Plenty of men and women can relate to both sides of the story…and then theres the truth…
So Laura, basically you’re saying that anyone who drinks too much and is then sexually assaulted, it’s their own fault? I’m sorry, but the blame is entirely on this man. Why didn’t he call her a taxi, if he holds women in such high regard, as the priest said? I’m sure she will take responsibility in the future, as getting blind drunk that time meant she couldn’t defend herself against Foley. Now he should take responsibility for his actions also, and serve his time. I see again that you are hinting that the woman was involved in consensual sex, and is now lying. Once again, the man was convicted of sexual assault, and there is plenty of evidence against him. The fact is that people lilke you don’t want to believe that he is capable of what he did, and you’re trying to rubbish and deny what happened. At the end of the day, it’s not that different from the members of the community who shunned parents of abuse victims and called the children liars. Stop clinging to the hope that Mister Foley will be released in the future, that one day the woman will turn around and say that it was all lies. The jury, and any honest person can see through Foley’s lies. I think it’s a pretty open and shut case. And when you say that we all come from different backgrounds, and don’t all think the same, I say that is ridiculous. The people defending him are morally corrupt, and fuck any attempt to claim that it’s some sort of local way of thinking. If it is the way people think down there, then I hope the place is flooded.
Some information reported on the 9th December:
http://www.kerryman.ie/news/convicted-sexual-assaulter-claims-incident-was-consensual-1968412.html
Laura, I’m a friend and an ex-girlfriend of Danny’s and I will forever maintain his innocence. Anybody who knows him knows he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body, I should know. People, there are so many blatantly obvious gaping holes in this case. As for the CCTV footage you are all raving on about, if you had read any of the early articles published from the trial you would know that the girl was carried while linking arms, not picked up and carried. I would suggest that you go back and read all the evidence from the trial and have an open mind before you make your judgment. As far as we (his friends) are concerned Danny Foley has been wrongly convicted and this is a complete miscarriage of justice. His brother stated this morning that they will be lodging an appeal with new evidence. Now when Danny is found innocent I wonder how many of you will be as quick to post apologies for the sick accusations. We certainly won’t hear about it on the RTE news.
Laura, these people can call us whatever they want but we will continue to fight for the truth.
Claire, of course you will forever maintain his innocence. In my opinion, you shouldn’t make any comment on the case, as you are biased and blatantly ignoring the significant evidence against the man, instead hoping to muddy the waters by claiming that there are doubts about the case. I can’t take your opinion seriously, you are deliberately turning a blind eye to the fact that a jury unanimously found the man guilty of sexual assault. You have no answer to the evidence against him, or the fact that he consistently lied. The truth is that you won’t accept that he is capable of what he was convicted of. The statement that Danny doesn’t have a bad bone in his body is absolutely meaningless. Josef Fritzl’s neighbours didn’t think he had a bad bone in his body either, until they discovered what he was really like. From comments I have received here, there seems to be no real doubts about the case, just an attempt to claim that the woman is untrustworthy and other pathetic speculation about her character. You were not there on the night, you have no absolute knowledge that he is innocent. You should just admit that you are basing it all on the fact that you think he is a kind, loving man.
If there are any results of appeals or future developments to comment on, I will do so. And yes, if in the future it all comes out that this man has been the victim of a miscarriage of justice, I will have no hesitance in retracting everything I said. As it stands, I beleive the man has been correctly convicted of a sexual assault, and the sentencing is appropriate.
You know jurys can be wrong, it has to be said this case is not cut and dry thats for sure there is alot of holes here
The reality is that there aren’t a lot of holes at all, which is why you aren’t able to name any that are not simply speculation over the woman’s character and how honest Foley is. After all, the jury convicted him and they are much more knowledgeable and aware of the case than you are. I reproduce the questions I asked earlier, which none of his defenders could answer: outline in detail the insider knowledge you have that points to a miscarriage of justice? You mention the court report; can you explain why you don’t accept the most important element of the court report, namely a conviction of sexual assault? Until you outline this conclusive evidence the community in Kerry seem to be sitting on regarding the man’s innocence, perhaps you should refrain from commenting? Or is it just that you and others like you have a strong belief that the man is not capable of what he was convicted of and are clinging to whatever you can to make the woman’s story less credible? Regarding Laura’s comment, can you please explain how some alleged ambiguities regarding the bruising to the victim and lack of clinical evidence should render the other substantial evidence of a sexual assault invalid?. I repeat again, you were not there, so you are operating on wild specualtion and opinions on the woman’s character. I am reporting on the findings of a criminal trial.
So your say what is always reported from a law trial is true, I am not saying who is rite here but there has been many miscarriages of justice and you cant just go by the findings of the trial when there are holes in it. To me there is more here maybe i’m wrong but as you say I was not there as nor were you
“There has been many miscarriages of justice” There have also been plenty of sexual assaults, like this one. Again, you have absolutely no basis for your defense of him, just more horseshit about how there has been many miscarriages of justice. You can’t answer those questions, because you sound like a spoofer. Do yourself a favour and stop talking nonsense. Do you believe that alleged sexual assaults should not be prosecuted, if there are no witnesses to see the events? That is the job of a criminal trial, and in this case a jury, weighing up all the evidence, convicted him of a sexual assault. You were not there, so you have no way of knowing that he is innocent. Don’t go by the findings of the trial? That is laughable. What do you suggest we go on? Wind readings?! Don’t bother commenting here again, unless you have something intelligent to add. That’s extended to everyone else also, who has no factual basis for their defence of the man.
Ok dont anyone comment here unless you agree ha your sad like know it all
Or perhaps don’t comment if you are a morally dubious character, defending a sexual predator, for no reason.
go big mental go.
these people are clean MAD!!!
SUCH A SHAME FOR THE VICTIM AND HER FAMILY!!!
bizarre!
i heard his engaged other half on the radio today saying she promised herself if she found one piece of evidence that would prove him guilty she would walk away. I think that’s where we all need to focus our selves for a moment. She was brave and open minded in her attitude to this. She in my mind is also hurting, nothing like the victim ofcourse, but still in such pain. She put out her thumb like a roman emperior jesturing live or die. She was black and white about the subject. Could any of you reading this do that with someone you love? All she wants is one piece of hard evidence to make her turn. If i was in her dredful position maybe i would want more than one piece. I dont think i would sleep or could if i was her. In many ways she holds the keys to any healing to the victim or herself. If she could bring herself back through her time with him, and i know he was charged and awaiting trial when she first met him. Is the man we are talking about wholely changed. Did she see any traces of the man depicted. if the answer is no, which often it is, she cant be his judge and jury. But i still have something swimming in my head about the need for just one piece of evidence. Is the victim not the your greatest proof of this. Realistically would she put a man through this because she hates him or wants to get revenge for something he did away from the case?. Would anyone sane go to this lenth for a vendetta? Would the victim wait this long, the lenth of her relationship, to take a drunken consentual affair one night; all the way through the courts. Would she tarnish her name and way of life over a stupid drunk night with a fella on his birthday. Answer me that all you who defend him. please?
If that is the attitude to woman in Kerry
My family will never visit again after all we have 2 daughters
A unanimous verdict from a jury of your peers after an extensive trial sounds pretty conclusive to me. No objections or appeals that due process was not followed? No? Well, then that’s tough: as far as our democratic society is concerned, he done it.
Which brings me to my main concern, which is that this “close-knit community” is not willing to accept the verdict of said jury of peers and feels empowered and emboldened enough to try to circumvent or subvert it. Of even more concern is that they seem to be very well coached in how to talk or not talk to reporters. No rash outbursts, no outrageous claims or intemperate rants to camera… doesn’t feel natural at all at all. And then I remembered that North Kerry is Martin Ferris country.
We will reap what we have sown.
Well bigmentaldisease, first of all he’s not my fiance, he’s my friend and my ex-boyfriend. I specifically didn’t make any comment on this until after the trial and then made my comments based on the evidence. Yes Danny lied, stupidly, but I can completely understand why. When the guards found them he was leaning over her trying to wake her up and she was half naked, he realized how bad it looked and lied and he’ll forever regret doing that. The fact that the man is 6ft 7, wide build and has a very deep voice has gone against him aswell as the victim is a very slight person. As for claiming the woman is untrustworthy, I don’t know the girl and know nothing about her, all I do know is she is lying.
A member of my family was in one of the town’s supermarkets this morning and while standing in the queue at the checkout she heard raised voices and noticed a man and woman arguing about this. The woman said to the man ‘that poor girl, all she has been through’, the man responded by calling the girl a few derogatory names and said that one man was in jail because of her and that [MORE UNCORROBORATED TITTLE TATTLE ABOUT THE VICTIM'S PAST]
A man in Tralee was speaking to my husband and asked him did he know him. He said he did but his wife knew him well. The man asked did he do it, my husband said ‘no’. The man replied with ‘I knew there was more to it, nobody would queue like that in a courtroom to shake his hand unless they knew he was innocent’. That was a complete strangers opinion.
U say I wasn’t there on the night, neither were u.
I call bullshit on his entire story that he was trying to wake her. So did the jury. You don’t because you won’t accept that he could have done it.
I never said I was there, as I said earlier, the purpose of the criminal trial was to determine his guilt. He has been convicted of a serious sexual assault. You cannot outline the concrete evidence you have that proves his innocence, because there isn’t any. There is however, plenty of evidence against him and the jury convicted accordingly.
As for your comments about the girl having done this thing before, that is complete and utter speculation and I have removed it. Once again, you don’t have anything other than random small-town gossip about the girl’s reputation. Whatever dirt you think you can throw at her doesn’t invalidate the evidence against Foley, and besides, it is competely irrelevant.
I suggest you look long and hard at your own life, and deal with the fact that your friend is a sex offender.
Danny foley is innocent and were all behind you Danny. Fuck everyone here leaving stupid comments when ye know nothing about the case
@Nick: Fuck you, you have no interest in justice. What kind of a person must you be to sympathise with a sex offender?
Bigmentaldisease, you hit it on the head, who would sympathise with a convicted sex offender. Who exactly? Behan and Keane have a lot to answer for. These strange growths of fake moral togetherness. A deep need to connect and gather behind their man, almost like a fighter in the ring….. grow up you stupid ignorant gang of idiots. He sat in court and got the best defensive people he could afford and lost. Proof? Blood finger prints on a take away window. His finger prints her blood. This was reported as a text book case of struggle against a sexual attacker. i have tried to be compassionate in my previous treads here but im annoyed at yer unsuported loyalty. We, the people who believe he did it, dont need to defend our side, we have taken faith in the group of our peers to judge is he guilty or is he not. he’s guilty as sin. read the reports yourself and cross examine the accused in yer horrible grotty little gin and piss drenched pubs, between the GAA and the recession ye will have loads to discuss…but no appeal is getting him out of jail. the case is so against him its crazy ye think he has a hope. I only hope she is the last victim…but if there is anyone else in that town thinking of coming forward with a case against Foley …you better think again…if you get raped in listowel this is the way they look after their women, blacken their names, deny their victory, try to choke their justice… she will even have people on here saying they dont know her say she’s lying anyway…………………………………………………………………………….. ….he’s now dropping his heavy ass on a bunk bed right now looking at his new home for 5 – 7 years. ……………………………………..ye crazy ranting flock of tribes people engulfing our media. The fifty listowel are so mental and deserve to be sent to a mental hospital for the rest of their days. In some countries these shower would be removed and given a good kicking outside. Yer tribemanship togetherness makes this whole debate as useless as throwing sticks at the moon…a hoppy carried out around kerry’s listowel…..not to long ago, it seems!
I just deleted the whole comment, this clown is excusing the sexual assault, because Danny was a good bouncer and ‘nice fella.’ Of course, the person basically admitted that they are basing this on nothing, other than that Foley should be believed and the woman not believed. Idiot. Honestly, I think some of these people shouldn’t be allowed near women, or young girls. Dirty old men the lot of them. – BMD
thats exactly what happend dont worry danny u b out soon everyone in listowel is behind u we know the truth – this is a second comment, from the same IP address as the last commenter. This fucking moron is pretending to be two different people. It just goes to show that most of these people are as thick as pigshit. John, Danny has a deluded little band of supporters who are convinced of his innocence, while the rest of the country believe you and him are a disgrace. You are a sick, warped individual, along with the rest of his defenders. I pity you. – BMD
The people standing up for him are sick. They don’t care that a woman was taken advantage off. Typical backwoods mentality, the men defending him think that she deserves it, it’s shocking in this day and age that such disgusting people still exist. If she was one of their daughters you can bet they would think differently. Kerry has been known in the past for this kind of thing.
I would like to lend my full support to this girl and to tell her that the support that this man ? has will disapate with time. But he might never come clean about is actions that night he has to keep up this facade because when he got into this position he did not come clean then now he cannot because he will let down so many people who have supported him through this trial he will lose all them. And let’s face it they are all brainless nobheads anyway.
Danny the great one. Danny knows how to handle the women. Danny is a great bouncer.Danny is a lovely fella. Even the local preist told us!Sur danny would carry you anywhere. even to the local skip Danny the most thoughtful.Would he have put her in the skip when he was finshed I wonder or would he carry her home. Or would he have tried to hide what he had done if the garda had not come. More violence was likley to follow!This is like a bad kerry joke.Thang god for the judical system!!
i was one of the fithy people who shook the hand of danny foley not only that i hugged him,kissed him and cried for him. I am a 29 year old MARRIED WOMAN with 2 small children i would trust danny with my life he is one of the most gentle, honest people i have ever meet in my life and i know he would never do that to another humanbeing. we did not know that the “so called victim” would be there and if we thought for one second it would cause so much outrage we would not of done it we were there to support our good friend and innicent man . The wardens and guards had no problem with this they sat back and had a smile on there faces . MAY I REMIND YE ALL AGAIN I WAS THERE NOT ALL THE ONES WHO ARE POSTING COMMENTS THEY NO NOTHING ABOUT REMEMBER THE MEDIA WILL ONLY PUT THINGS INTO THE PAPER THAT LOOK GOOD TO SELL A PAPER WHILE A INNICENT MAN IS IN JAIL.
He is not innocent, he is a sex offender. You should be ashamed of yourself. You were not there on the night, you don’t know that he is innocent. You refuse to accept the trial’s verdict; you and others like you are an embarassment. I hope your friend enjoys his years inside. Hopefully he will own up to what he did, but probably not, because he is a coward. There are some load of morons here leaving multiple comments under different names, it just shows how desperate they all are. They have absolutely nothing of value to say, except ‘Danny would never do anyhting like that.’ That’s all they have. They didn’t see anything, they don’t know what happened. But they still refuse to acknowledge the verdict. They are not to be taken seriously. That’s why there’s no point taking their comments anymore. I knew Kerry people could be thick but this is ridiculous. It’s like talking to children.
I am certainly not saying drink + sexual assault=ok nor short skirt=asking for it. Those of u implying Im saying otherwise are simply not listening to my opinion or are so blinkered in your stance on this case that you were nt allowing me open up the debate to another angle I feel Ireland needs to wake up to.That is we ALL, male and female, need to take responsibilty for our alcolohol intake, our safety and our sexual activity.
My female friends have agreed with me that we’ve all put ourselves in a vulnerable situation at some point with alcohol on board and sober would never have allowed it happen. Its not to be proud of but it has happened.
These vary from meeting guys while out of it and waking next morning not knowing what did / didnt go on, to one night stands with strangers on holidays on deserted beaches, to girls pretending to pass out to prevent advances from guys they know and trust who werent willing to leave it go at a certain level…This is not to call into question these girls morals, all are mortified sober at recalling these events and thinking of the real danger they potentially were in!
As for the lads many recall experiences of hazy drunken sex on nights out with little memory next day, most admit at some point knowingly having sex with a girl who was not sober enough to make that call, some have scary stories of girls passing out on them at an inoportune time/place.
These stories are not good and theres one common denominator…excessive alcohol.
Main reason I have played devils advocate here is because a college friend had his life almost ruined some years back in a similar case to Foleys and i am all too aware of the effects on the involved parties and their family and friends as the girl making the accusation had been a friend too. It really opened my eyes and mind to cases such as this and I know firsthand how it divides people and causes so much hurt all round. We were in a smaller 3rd level institute and it had ripple effects through our entire class and year.
Finally Dermot regarding the more balanced of your last 2 comments do not understimate the importance of the questions you raised regarding why someone would persue a case and you asked why a sane person might do so…agin I would reiterate we do not know where others are comin from. Eating disorders, compulsive disorders, depression what goes on behind closed doors who knows?
I feel dreadfully sorry for all involved and sincerely hope justice WAS done…if not how awful
Laura, your motives are highly questionable. You are trying to subtly imply that the woman might have consented to what happened, even though you have no knowledge of this. A jury have weighed up the evidence and convicted him of a sexual assault. He is a convicted sex offender. There is no grand discussion to be had about the rights and wrongs of it all. He took advantage of a drunk girl, which is inexcusable, to all except the morally corrupt. You say you are not making excuses for the assault by saying the girl was drunk, but that is exactly what you are doing. Your friend who had his life ruined is irrelevant here. At the end of the day, the man has been convicted. Stop trying to undermine the result of the trial. You were not there, neither were his defenders. They are basing their belief of his innocence on their opinion of the man’s character, not on the evidence. As I said earlier, if tomorrow the victim comes out and says it was all a bunch of lies, then I will be happy to retract what I have said. The opposite is not true of ihs defenders, they will not accept that he committed the assault, even after a fair trial. That to me, and to the rest of the country, is reprehensible and no more attacks on the victim will be accepted here.
good old kerry
the home of the knuckle walker
talk about alabama
kerry is a shithole
take away their gaa and what are you left with
overpriced shitty bacon and cabbage hotels
kerry babies ,kerry rapists
ever noticed how the men and women look the same with a unibrow and a big dumb look
saliva dribbling from their mouth
and the men have to take off their shoes and socks to count to twenty
a big sicko time warped hole
imagine a que to shake hands with a convicted sex offender? typical
I can’t believe that all kerry people are being painted with the one brush over this bloody case. i’m saddened at the carry on of all insults made about kerry people. wud the same insults be mde if it were from another county? unfortunately because of media all kerry people has to hear over and over about this case.
It is a Kerry village after all; if it was a village in Tipperary the response would be exactly the same. It’s not really a time for Kerry people to play the victim. There should be nothing more to say other than an expression of sympathy for the victim and a statement of opposition to the ignorant people ignoring the verdict. In my own personal experience there are plenty of Kerry people saying nothing about the case, for fear of some sort of disapproval by his defenders. I’m sorry, but that is cowardice and I respect the Kerry people who have the guts to come out and stand up for the woman who was sexually assaulted. I don’t believe you have any justification for your statement that the media are some way at fault, for reporting the sick actions of a group of slimy characters.
Laura, All women should take responsibility for their condition while out drinking. I dont think a soul alive would disagree with your statement. But we are not talking about that. If she was very drunk what happened wasnt and never will be her fault. neither are we asking why he did such a terrible act on a women unable to defend herself. We are questioning the lack of respect shown by the Listowel mob, and i will call them a mob or flash mob as thats exactly what they performed in the Tralee court. To do that infront of the victim is unforgivable. We are talking about this mob and why they carried out such a lousey, fingers up to the victim, stunt in court. An lets call a spade a spade here. They knew the victim would be in court…isnt the trail based on her evidence. They knew this united line of support would be damaging to her name. In their hearts, which are made of stone i presume, they probably had a fantasy she’d cave in and admit that the years of agony were put on and that their Foley was a complete gentleman and she made it all up. That she would admit she is a gifted actress who has been fooling people for years!. I sometimes think i’m reading about ireland from 100 years ago. I sometimes think the vilage Foley comes from is full of male pigs who beat up their wives and daughters. I sometimes dont know what to think. But i know one thing, we have a good justice system. THERES NOT A SOUL LOCKED UP TODAY WHO ISNT THERE FOR A GOOD REASON. Our courts and juries dont lock up people lightly. its a huge disection of details and statements from all sides before a verdict is given. Listowel for gods sake trust the law and say sorry to the victim. Foley looks like and acts like a street angel and a house devil. Theres many sickos out there like him who are as charming as fuck to the old ladies and the local men, but behind it there covering up a depraved sexual apitite or some other secret. I beg any women reading this to ask themselves one question, simply, would you go through the nightmare she’s going through right now if you were lying. the answer is NO..
Lyndsay,
Every time i read your tread i get sick.`ya know why some of the wardens and garda had smiles on their faces…becase they were embarressed. You know why ye went up there, becase it felt like the right thing to do at the time. In hindsight you accept, becase of the media attention around it, it was the wrong thing to do. So going forward in your life do you think you will give more thoughts to your actions. Maybe in hindsight you will believe the overwhelming evidence against foley and realise it was wrong to doubt the judicial system. How long will that hindsight take to occur. A lot of people in listowel know another side to Foley which you have never seen. Take the courts judgement and shut the fuck up Lyndsay.
So overwhelming was the evidence against him that a jury took over 4 hours to reach a verdict, and when they asked for more time, they were told to come back the next morning, so they gave themselves a time limit of ten minutes to reach a verdict. I haven’t heard anyone say that they regret shaking hands with him. It is extremely unusual that a victim would be in the courtroom on the day of the sentencing, it is more common for the victim impact statement be read into evidence on their behalf.
Come to a verdict they did, a verdict which you ignore for no reason other than you have decided not to trust the woman. Besides, 4 hours is nothing when it comes to a deliberation. I don’t doubt that they do not regret shaking her hand. They refuse to acknowledge his guilt because they are morally corrupt, misogynistic halfwits.
the real truth will come out eventually
The truth has already come out, didn’t you hear? Foley sexually assaulted a woman and got sent down for 5 years. There’s loads about it in the papers!
And if it’s in the papers, it has to be true! Everyone knows that.
not all of it im sure
You’re not sure of anything. If you have such concrete evidence of his innocence, why weren’t you at the trial? You’re full of shit, just like him.
I am so bloody disgusted by all this it is making me physically sick.
I just cannot comprehend what the hell his supporters are thinking?
There have been many suggestions that supporters are stupid/hicks etc etc and they keep denying this but I actually cannot fathom how they can carry on defending this PROVEN SEX OFFENDER!
To the supporters of this monster: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES! you are a very small minority in a nation of people who are truely DISGUSTED WITH YOU!
You are all ridiculously naive and cannot look at this with an open mind! I am completely unbiased in this situation, dont know anyone involved in the case and have never had any experience with sexual assault. Yet I can look at this case with an open mind and I can see that the evidence is there. You all say that there are holes in the evidence. But your completely wrong, the only holes in this case are in his story!
In this country it is nearly impossible to convict sex offenders. Yet the evidence for this case was so strong he had to be charged. If this man had got away there would have been holy war in this country.
I am so sick to death of reading all your comments about how hes such a nice guy etc. Are you really that naive to expect to convince us all of his innocence with ridiculous claims that you know him so well and he wouldnt harm a fly etc etc
WAKE UP! If you are soooo convinced of his innocence then give us hard evidence to convince us. otherwise go to hell and leave that poor girl alone because there is plenty of evidence to prove he is guilty.
If you can give me evidence that he is innocent I will gladly appologise and join your side…….. however…. i find this VERY doubtful as surely this so called evidence would have been used in court?
Clearly you feel passionately enough about the case to render your claims of being completely unbiased and having an open mind invalid. You state that clearly there was enough evidence to convict, is this based solely on the fact that the jury saw fit to convict him, or based on what you have read in the papers that was called evidence? Can a three day long trial be condensed into a half page newspaper article, and adequately portray the full facts of the case?
Your repeated comments about the paper coverage are hilarious. Lame attempt to undermine the trial by bringing out the ‘papers tell lies to sell copies’ cliché. Once again, you are ignoring the evidence and the result of the trial, because you don’t want him to be guilty. Luckily for the victim of the sex attack, a jury of unbiased and dispassionate natured members was found. Your opinion on his guilt is invalid. You were not there, you don’t know anything about what happened. You can interpret the evidence whichever way you want, I don’t give a damn either way. Have you anything substantial to add, or are you just going to repeat your gossip and uninformed nonsense?.
I’m happy that I humour you. I’m also happy that you have hilighted the fact that all of the evidence in this case is open to interpretation, as there was no physical or clinical evidence against him.
you dont no danny if you did you would no he was innocent write what you want we dont care what you think
What’s it got to do with whether or not someone knows him? How do you know he didn’t do it? You don’t, you fucking dumbass. Thanks for proving my point. Why don’t you write him a letter, he’ll have plenty of time to read it, if he can read.
JOSE, thank you very much you ave completely proven my point so I am very grateful to you indeed!
My entire post was about people like you who are unable to form a post with actual evidence for us.
Go to hell if you think anybody on this planet could be convinced with “if you knew him you would know he was innocent”…
I’ve got to say though Jose, thank you very much, over the past few days I have only felt anger because of this case…. but you have actually just made me laugh with your pathetic post, so thank you so much. You have helped me realise how pathetic your beliefs are.
Good luck to you and the predator’s appeal because you’ll need it if you think that will convince anybody of his innocence!!
DISGUSTED, it’s hard not to lose patience with these clowns, like the Lyndsay woman, who is leaving the same comment over and over again, i.e. YOU WERE NOT THERE, DANNY WAS PUNISHED BY THIS LIAR, EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN KNOWS SHE IS A LIAR, THE CCTV MEANS NOTHING BLAH BLAH BLAH. She doesn’t seem to be able to grasp that the fact that she is friends with Foley doesn’t make her supremely knowledgeable about what he did or didn’t do. I sense utter desperation from these people, they don’t have anything to go on. Sick bastards should experience a sexual assault themselves, see what it’s like.
BIGMENTALDISEASE: Thanks for posting this blog. Seeing what these supporters have to say has only further strengthened my belief that this monster is guilty.
When I first heard this story for a few minutes I questioned if there was something else going on that I didn’t know about. Surely there must be more to this case I thought. However, when I researched the case thoroughly and heard what his family had to say I was just stunned by the fact that they actually don’t have a leg to stand on.
It is shocking that these people can be so blinded to him.
I think your completely right, there is definitely a clear stench of desperation from them.
When I first heard of this case, my thoughts were “what a bunch of backward hicks …..”
However after allowing some of the emotion to settle, I firmly believe we may well have had a mis-carraige of justice here.
TBH if every guy found with a heavily intoxicated semi-naked girl was to be charged/convicted with assault, then we would need to build another 20 prisons. Has any of you people ever sat in a car in a back-alley in any town in Ireland when the clubs close? Try it sometime. Believe me it’s an education. Many girls have no idea what country they are in, let alone which town or who they are with.
That said Foley told lies. But telling lies does not make a person guilty. Perhaps like the girl he wasfound in an embarassing situation (younger girl, wrong side of town etc.) and wanted to explain away his presence. Anyone who’s lived in a small town will understand exactly what I mean.
As for the girl perhaps like him, she too found herself in a highly embarassing situation (semi-naked, extremely drunk, older guy, back of a skip), and rather than accept her own liability, choose to cry assault.
I may be wrong, but there is something not quite right here.
Just exactly what is not quite right here? The evidence was damning, Foley lied consistently and the jury convicted. He sexually assaulted her, and people like you, implying that she ‘cried assault’ with absolutely no evidence of this, are the lowest of the low, in my opinion. Stop trying to couch your accusations in some kind of commentary on what happens around the country on nights out. There are plenty of men out there who aren’t interested in sexually abusing drunk girls. The simple truth is that he took advantage of her, and you have no basis for your doubting of her. Not one of you have any basis. You have nothing, except what I think might be an unhealthy opinion of women. At the end of the day, you are attacking the victim of a sexual assault, and excusing a sex offender. It says a lot about the type of person you are.
“Has any of you people ever sat in a car in a back-alley in any town in Ireland when the clubs close? Try it sometime. Believe me it’s an education.”
And do tell us, are you the sort of person that does that as a hobby?
it seems to me that those pesky FACTS do get in the way of a good hypothesis!
Those pesky FACTS sent that ugly creep away for the next five years!
The full shilling i couldnt disagree more. Copy and paste the links to this blog with the ‘facts’ that your deep research has conducted. The sort of research Foleys defence couldnt find. Hell, send the evidence onto his solictor and be the hero in Listowel. But god help your poor little mind playing the bottom string of the hick banjo. have you been living this long on earth and never entered the arena of a debate. Trust me the arguements for against every topic have been debated. On here we are discussing the manner of which the listowel people embraced a sick minded man convicted of sexual assault. he did it ok, two great sides debated his fate and found he was guilty. they looked at the evidence, it was throughly checked and all who provided were cross examined. The ending was 5 – 7 years for the Foley. WE ARE NOT HERE TO RETRAIL THIS CASE. If you want to keep blowing hot air with larks like,
i know he wouldnt do that to anyone,
or he didnt have it in him,
he’s not the type,
she was half to blame,
its a miscarraige of justice,
you fit into a section of society i would like to address.
Remember that some men are different around some women. And likewise some women are different around some men. They have a change in attitude to them. Some guys get agressive very easily around some women. I’ve seen nice guys turn into arse holes,even talking on the phone to them. I believe and this is not anything to do with the case or any evidence, i believe they went of together for a while. She felt she was losing control of herself like she had her drink spiked, when this happened she asked him to stop being near her. She probably gave him a slap or a cold push away. he was fustrated and needing some more affection, but it wasnt happening for her. He stepped forward again and she wrestled to fight him of. He would not listen to her cries for him to stop. What followed then was going to ruin Foleys entire life. If this is what happened he is guilty as sin. no she was not to blame for turning him on or leading, a women is entitled to say stop at anytime (thats the law of this state by the way) if this is what happened then he’s guilty. If she went unconscious an he touched her he should get another ten years. If a women is out of it you stay the hell away. thats a warning for the next foley. Man i’m so annoyed with some of the people writting rubbish her. cop the fuck on.
Dermot, you’re absolutely right. I’m not even bothering to let through any more of those stupid comments, it’s getting a bit old now. It all smacks of desperation and a complete illogical attitude. They’re just hypocrites, going on about the facts, but ignoring the actual facts. Not even worth arguing with.
Fair play BigMentalIllness, i think all those emails need to be responded in the way you are doing with a quick one liner and finish.
its fair to say the whole country is united, bar foley and friends, around one thing from this…we want to leave this kind of ireland behind us forever. Maybe some good will come of this terrible occurence, a reflection tool to show us that we still have a long way to go but that we are getting there, if a lot slower than everyone thought.
For all these so called good friends of foley I think they should sit down in a private room all 50 of them. They should then have an honest discussion about the facts of this case.But the big question they should ask themselves is why did foley carry this girl to the area where the skip was.Even if she was consenting (which she wasn’t)why bring a girl to an area like that. Remember he carried her in there to a quite spot but there is nothing nice about this. Where was the behavior of a gentleman here. It is clear he did not know about the video camera And only for the camera all would be lost for this poor girl.It is clear he thought he was going to get a ride for himself which when you look at the location and circumstances it does not look good for foley.Shame on you foley you should have known better.
Yes, he certainly should have known better. Very poor judgement call. Have you ever made an error in your own judgement? Do you believe that you should be sentenced to 7 years in prison and placed on the sex offenders register for life, for being guilty of poor judgement under the influence of alcohol? Perhaps we really are still living in the dark ages in Ireland.
Poor judgement? You call committing a sexual assault poor judgement? Nice to know what type of person you are.
Three things,
1 I think the judge is the best judge of what happened in the courtroom and he said that Foley was a liar. He did lie, he changed his story from finding her while going for a pee to consensual sex
2 Maybe the bruising on her hands was from a different source, but what about the scrapes on her legs consistent with being dragged?
3 why would any decent guy think he could have consensual sex with a girl whose head was rolling around and was slipping in and out of consciousness (garda evidence)?
I want the apologists to deal with these three points.
@Gerry: I wouldn’t hold your breath for a response. Not one of his apologists have anything to offer. They just ‘know he’s innocent.’ They make the same comment over and over again, and won’t answer my questions, your questions or give any solid basis for their defence. They have nothing. There’s no point even talking to them anymore. And props to the dimwit who thinks the whole trial is a PC conspiracy. You must have been walloped off the edge of a table when you were born.
AS A CCTV CAMERA I FIND IT QUITE OFFENSIVE THAT PEOPLE IN LISTOWEL DON’T SEEM TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MY OPINION.
STILL WE ALL KNOW THE JOKES ABOUT KERRYMEN SO ITS NO SURPRISE THEY’RE BEFUDDLED BY ME
@CCTV: Those people in Listowel are not up to date with technology, bars of soap, or sexual offense legislation. For some reason they don’t trust a criminal trial to produce a result, instead preferring to rely on their tea-leave readings and gossip down at the local Super Valu, while they keep their abused children locked in the car with four dirty sheepdogs.
You have truly lived up to the title of ‘Bigmentaldisease’ with that one.
hi…..i’m finding all this minding blowing? my worry would be for the new acquired girlfriend who is alledging to an engagement just to help danny, a CONVICTED sex offeder, putting her own life on hold and at risk by defending him. six months of a relationship with over 200 miles between them is not adequate time to get to know someone, in my opinion.
When a woman gets blind drunk, she is as vulnerable, voiceless and helpless as a small child and anyone could take advantage of her when she is in this condition, if they so wish. Just because she put herself in that position that night, doesn’t mean that she ‘asked for it’. She is not to blame – a drunk woman is not fair game, just as a child is not fair game.
We have all been taught right from wrong. We know it is wrong to have sex with children. We know it is wrong to have sex with women who are too intoxicated to stand up straight. What kind of man would have sex with a woman in that state? I don’t care what he is like as a person. You bog people of Kerry need to study the facts and stop defending a man who has been found guilty for a sexual assault. You are keeping our country in the dark ages, shame on you…
And shame on you for the assumption that you know the facts of this case when clearly you do not. You know the hype as portrayed by the media. Is a drunk man any less vulnerable to an entirely different type of predator…?
MichaelQ, i think it’s perfectly reasonable to rely on the result of a criminal trial. The criminal justice system has examined and processed all the relevant evidence, and delivered a verdict. His guilt has been decided, it’s not for you to retry him; you weren’t there either. Please don’t comment anymore unless you have something more than your interpretation of the evidence. I’m tired of making this point now.
Jesus – I remember once I got absolutely langers drunk. I bumped into a family friend in the nightclub and he escorted me home to the door. He didn’t try to have sex with me… now that’s what I call a good man. I don’t doubt for a moment that DANNY FOLEY was a nice fella. Nice people can make wrong choices and I think that’s where you are all going astray. He made a wrong choice that night and he now must pay the price. It’s a tragedy but there is only one victim in my eyes and that is the girl.
If you were truly ‘langers drunk’ as you say, would you remember if he had? Probably just as well you’ve only ever gotten ‘langers drunk’ once in your life then…
Perhaps she wouldn’t remember. Luckily we have a criminal justice system to assist. I’m sure if it happened there would be plenty of evidence to convict the sex offender, as in this case. I don’t advise anyone to get langers drunk, as there are always sleazy perverts like Foley around to take advantage.
1. Sex offenders are never “criminal” – looking or behaving types: their profiles are ALWAYS those of so-called “normal”, respected, pillars-of-society types. No-one can recognise an obvious sex-offender walking down the street. Those that have so much positive to say about Danny should remember that (and also look nervously around themselves whilst they are at it). Just because you see him as a nice and kind man, does not automatically imply that he must be innocent. A judge and a jury of 12 of his peers did not think so.
2. In my years that I have lived in Kerry (I am not from here TG), one thing has become clear: respect for law and order is almost non-existant here. Just look at the way people park, and litter, and drink-and-drive as examples. Now these 50 troglodytes from the boglands of north Kerry have proved this thesis once and for all. Will these knuckle-draggers ever realise that the oppressive laws of the Brit occupiers have long been replaced by the laws of their own, Irish elected representatives?
Oh, and if you want an idea of the type of friends Danny Foley keeps, have a bit of a poke around Facebook and Google. For example, one Derek Dalton. Sadly he has removed a lot of his ranting about Danny (such as how he will hunt down and get anyone who crosses him),as well as his catchy personal information along the lines of “dont cross my path!” since yesterday.. Still, a charming fellow, I’m sure.
Derek Dalton I see is a fan/supporter of the DSPCA.
Seems like a decent bloke?
Unless you’re tellin me the DSPCA is somekind of rightwing mysoginistic neo-nazi organisation that is?
And in Derek’s spare time, while he’s not caring for animals, he likes to make fun of the victims of sexual assault. I read about his hilarious Black Russian joke. Scumbag, like Foley..
?
i drink Black Russians.
is this now an offence? Darn! i never knew.
You obviously have difficulty understanding things, probably why you are defending him.
did ya hear the 1 about the Black Russian who went fer a skip?
How hilarious you are, and thanks for finally being honest about the type of person you are. Why don’t you go molest someone, you might even get to share a cell with Herman Munster, or should I say Danny Foley. I hear there are talks about making him do the sex offender shuffle.
you somehow equate a joke about a drink with molestation, and then you actually wonder why so many people have difficulty with his conviction????
spare me…
You made a joke about the molestation, and you intended to. In fact, the comment you made had only one possible meaning. You’re really starting to embarrass yourself now. I think you’re fucked in the head, to be honest. Also, that last comment made absolutely no sense. Have you finished your Junior Cert yet?
Very articulate. From the camp that condones the severity of sentence because of the use of ‘odious language’. A shining example of the rampant hypocrisy in Irish society that you yourself have alluded to in earlier posts.
see the mere mention of a skip or a black russian and fools likeyou jump on yer bandwagon.
i feel embarassed for you tbh, but it’s ok we all make fools of ourselves from time to time.
I think you’re just completely thick. What other reason would you have for mentioning both those things? You think you’re an intellectual mastermind, making the joke and then afterwards claiming I took the wrong meaning, when there isn’t any other meaning that makes sense. It’s cringeworthy how dim you are. You’re boring me now, to be honest. Goes to show how the people defending him are actually of very low intelligence. You’re not worth my while responding to anymore.
So there you have it folks, one of Foley’s defenders thinks a woman’s sexual assault is something to joke about. Showing a similar amount of respect for women as Foley himself does.
The full shilling, you enjoy a sneeky feel up a drunk girls dress after another lonely night. Therefore in your mind ya cant understand all the big deal. in your little mind she was drunk and therefore is half to blame. sound man. Women of ireland stay the hell out of royston vassey/listowel while trolls like The full shilling roam the after hours. good grief!
Note the deafening silence in relation to my previous post…
This clearly shows that the people defending this criminal are arguing in bad faith.
They claim special knowledge, spout spurious ‘facts’ and when their misinformation is challenged they resort to slurs.
Shame on the apologists for this registered sex-offender.
I say again, do any of you have the decency to respond to;
1 Foley changing his story
2 The victim’s injuries consistent with being dragged
3 If he is such a wonderful man, why did he want to have sex with a girl who was slipping in and out of consciousness?
1)He changed his story days after the incident, before any proceedings against him were underway, not in evidence in court, and nor was he aware at the time of the existence of cctv footage.
2)The medical report stated that her injuries were of a superficial nature and were consistent with being dragged OR on the ground. The same doctors report concluded that there was no clinical evidence of a sexual assault. Also, the toxicology report said that she was clinically intoxicated. There was no evidence to support the theory that her drink was spiked.
3)They did not have sex. Her evidence suggests that she lost consciousness at some point. She also stated that ‘my memory is very vague’. She then stated that she remembers ‘fighting him off the entire time’ and she was ‘fairly certain’ it was Danny because of the shape and size of the man she was fighting off, and because he wore dark jeans.
The judge commented twice that he could see nothing in the cctv footage other than shadows, so poor was the quality, a detective sergeant agreed with him. For some reason the jury were not privvy to these remarks, as apparently “matters of the conduct of the trial” are usually carried out in the absence of the jury.
Reasonable objective questions Gerry, fair play, keep them coming.
WHY DID DANNY FOLEY FEEL THE NEED TO LIE BECAUSE THE FIRST ACT OF GUILT IS DEFENCE. IF HE DIDNT KNOW HE DID SOMETHING WRONG HE SURE FELT IT AT THE TIME WHEN THE GARDAI ARRIVED BY STATING HE FOUND HER. AND IF IT WAS CONSENTUAL WHAT KIND OF A ‘GENTLE SOUL’ AS HIS FIANCE STATED MAKES OUT WITH GIRLS IN ALLEY WAYS, GIVES SCRAPES AND BRUISES INDICATING DRAGGING ON BACKS OF LEGS NOT JUST HER ARMS. A GENTLE SOUL DOESNT CHEAT EITHER SO WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT HIS CHARACTER THEN? SEEMS PEOPLE HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD GENTLE, HURT OR SEX ASSUALT FOR THAT MATTER. WE HAVE ALL DRANK TOO MUCH IS THIS A REASON TO GET HURT, OR LEARN A LESSON. EVEN IF THIS GIRL WAS LINKING HIS ARMS WHEN CARRIED BY HIM SHE PROBABLY DIDNT REALISE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF HER BEING THE ‘GENTLE SOUL’ ONE IS CLAIMING HE IS. DANNY FOLEY KNOWS THE TRUTH AND SHE KNOWS THE TRUTH AND BOTH WILL LIVE WITH THAT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. BRUISES WILL FADE, CUTS WILL HEAL BUT EMOTIONAL SCARS STAY FOREVER AND THAT IS LIFE IMPRISONMENT. I HOPE YOU OR ANYONE YOU LOVE WILL NEVER FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS POSITION AFTER ALL LIFE THROWS MANY CHALLENGES AT US SOME WE CHOOSE AND SOME WE CANNOT AVOID. DANNY FOLEY CHOSE TO LIE SO WHY DID HE FEEL THE IMMEDIATE NEED TO PROTECT HIMSELF. IF IT WAS FOR FEAR OF HOW IT MAY SEEM THEN WHY DID HE PUT HIMSELF IN THIS POSITION?
I see it is still raging about foley.You know they have brought the wrath of the irish people upon themselves.In the paper on sunday it was said by a woman in listowel there are two sides to this.Well these people just dont get it.This is not about danny foley been a nice or gentle fellow.This is about danny foley taking advantage of another person! What makes it worst is the actions of his friends! And their denial of what foley had done.I am sure foley might be a nice fellow but he done a lot of damage to this lady. And she is still a lady but he is certanly no gentleman. I was thinking of sending some small donation to the kerry rape centre and hoping they would pass the money onto to her maybe she could take her son and a friend or family member with her on holiday. Given the trauma she has been through it might help her and let her know that there are decent people willing to put money where there mouth is HAS ANYONE GOT ANY COMMENTS TO MAKE ON THIS IDEA BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE YOUR VIEWS AND THEN WE CAN REALY SEND THE MESSAGE HOME THAT WE CARE ABOUT THIS POOR DEFENCLESS GIRL.
Chas, that sounds like a great idea. We here have already made a small donation. As far as I know, they are passing on messages of support to her directly.
good idea chas.
this has got to be the biggest backfire of 2009. The reason being that the 50 set out to make shit of this girl in a small courthouse in Tralee prior to her impact statement, as a result of their actions, they have brought worldwide negative attention to Listowel and the Foleys.Certaintly in London and Nottingham it has been discussed. Well done BigMental Disease and if ever there is a protest organised let us know and we will book our flights. Congratulations to that girl, Foley might have 50 supporters but she has worldwide support..
I see Dan Foley’s vile little clique are out in force here. Boards.ie is littered with these cowards signing up slandering the victim, and assuring us that man is the sweetest lamb in the world who accidently turned up with his cock out infront of a half naked semi concious woman. Thank fuck the Gardai turned up when they did.
What would be your excuse if they arrived five minutes, later?
You’re vile nasty excuses for human beings, and it sickens me, that so many women are falling over themselves to defend this worthless thug.
Laura, I can only hope you are barren, because the idea of you passing on your warped ethics onto your children, sickens me.
As I read through some of what has been said since last viewing forum there are plenty of valid comments. Also more information has been brought out by media. I will not however comment or log on again. For the record before I depart AT NO POINT did I condone what happened, AT NO POINT did I slander the victim and AT NO POINT did I support the guilty party.
PLEASE SEE LAST SENTENCE OF MY LAST COMMENT AND IT TELLS ANYONE MY OPINION IN SUMMARY.
Dermot and Gerry seem to be astute balanced individuals and BMD (for the most part) , I enjoyed all of your comments, thoughts and observations.You are obviously normal people, articulate, of sound mind and able to express an opinion well, even when emotional.
However 8den, Your comment has given me a chill.Nobody on this forum, regardless of their opinion or in some cases stance has expressed such a horrible sentiment. Even the more derranged full shilings, that clearly arent or other pretenders havent wished anything similar on their opposition.
I could retort but you’re obviously in what would appear to be one of your own favourite words “vile”.
Oh and by the way I could express my opinion without “vile” language also.
To everyone else a peaceful New Year.
You’re right Laura. No matter what difference of opinion someone holds that comment made my stomach sick. It’s absolutely disgusting
MichaelQ, your rampant hypocrisy comment is a wonderful comment, as you have perfectly described yourself and all that sex offender’s defenders.
MichaelQ, I suggest you take an ethics class. You’re another budding sex predator if ever I saw one. The reason I say this is that you don’t give two hoots about the evidence or the criminal conviction, you are convinced that it’s all the woman’s fault. Misogynistic and slimy you are, and you can be on your way now.
This is getting repetitive and tiresome. No more speculation.
To Laura and Claire and all these other half witted yokels who support that sex offender they should be ashamed of themselves. They’re comments are a disgrace to all those people who have worked hard on the subject of women’s rights. Laura wrote one long comment about alcohol, she must be on the wrong site, this is about a man convicted of sexual assault sentenced to seven lovely long years, not about problems with alcohol abuse in Irish society which there clearly is but that is a different subject altogether. These “supporters” are living in a fish bowl, they’re oppinions and beliefs are actually disturbing. Question for Laura, If you went out and got hammered drunk and a man carried you into an alley and had his way with you, would you wake up in the morning and laugh it off wit your other dimwit friends light a cigarette and happily chat to your “lover” the next time you are out? This is what your comments are implying to me. Have a nice life.
I’m expressing my opinion on the supporters’ previous comments, i.e Laura, Claire, MichaelQ, the Full Shilling. Unfortuantly there are too many of you people to mention. Basically they make me sick, you seem to be completely unaware of your ignorance and backward view. Whenever bigmentaldisease replys to your mind numbing comments with spot on well made observations and perfect answers to your backward arguments you come back with yet another horrifying reply. The victim in this case is ten times the person you will ever be and her dignity, bravery and higher ideas should be commended. However because it seems to me these supporters are living in the dark ages, they will fail to see that, and years down the line everyone who studys this controversial case will shake their heads at what they read and even gasp at how warped some people were “back then”. I only hope that the old adage what goes around comes around wont rear its head for your sake. I am disgusted.
I can’t for the life of me understand how these rape apologist bullshit excuses for human beings are still defending a sex offender. It’s absolutely astonishing. Victim-blaming crap at its very, very worst.
Better than pulling knowledge out of your arse, which you seem to be doing. Which part of what was in the papers do you deny? Was he not convicted on the evidence? I suppose you have some damning evidence against the girl? Whoops, no. All you have is the same old attacks on her character and rumours on her sexual behaviour. Dim or what?
And I’m happy that you have your own interpretation of the evidence. However, I’m not really interested in your interpretation of the evidence. From reading the transcripts, it’s obvious to me that Foley committed a sexual assault. That’s what the jury thought also. I guess you’ll have to start your own magazine setting out your version of the facts, as I’m not going to allow any more of them here. Going by your possibly libellous remarks about the girl earlier, (which I deleted) there are some misogynistic undertones in your defence of him and your condemnation of her. Anyway, take it elsewhere, as I told you earlier: this is not a forum for you to offer your expert legal opinion. Bye!